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Damsel vs Damsel Rydia vs Terra by TMason Damsel vs Damsel Rydia vs Terra by TMason
Another month, another Damsel vs Damsel for my Patreon supporters. Posted here, as usual, for advertising purposes.

Anyway, this month it's two green haired damsels from two of my favourite Final Fantasy games ever: Rydia the summoner/Black Mage and Terra the (however you want to build her, but probably a magic user).

Also, latest Laura comic is online here!

Comments are appreciated!
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chango05 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2018
terra won, and rydia tied with her whip 
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CFood Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
right.. "damsels"

the girls who are literally saving the world 
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Sniper108 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2018
i vote for the chick in green dress
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GhostAuthorZero Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Student Writer
Terra!
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BallisticJoe Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Terra's mah bby <3
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Lerewolf Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Terra!
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SkySamurai83 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Rydia!
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drowmerc Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Rydia!
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PascalOfPiers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Fuck FF4. FF4 is the game where our 'hero' is a sexist bastard who refuses to let Rydia and Rosa help him because they're women. Sexist bastard. I don't care if they sneak on anyway; the fact they didn't tell that fucker off was offensive enough.

TERRA, now there's a badass~
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truegentleman101 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now, I'm not usually the one to argue, and I haven't completely finish the game, but I always thought that cecil harvey was one of the nicest characters in ff. Throughout the game, he questions the moral of his king and the of his current position as leader of the red barons, conquering innocent villages to steal their crystals. When cecil and kain met rydia, kain asked if they should kill her along as her village burned from the unintentional bombing, but both cecil and kain decide to take her to an inn to rest. Cecil was there to defend her when baron soldiers threatened to take her away. As for Rosa, cecil traveled through the desert to give her an elixir to cure her illness. If you want to argue that he's sexist for not taking them along, then that's fine, but I think he just wants to protect them. Rosa is his main love interest, he wouldn't want anything to happen to her. Rydia is a young girl, he doesn't want her harmed too. Eventually, they do come with him to fight golbez and the final boss, zemus.

Also, this takes place in a old monarchy fantasy kingdom, it's already hegemonic that men and women served different roles.
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PascalOfPiers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
He has NO qualms bringing Edge along. And that's not an excuse. Another intellectual property of Square is the Bravely series, with a kingdom and crystals a lot like FF4. Guess how many times the male characters tell the female characters not to come along?

Not fucking once. And one of the women is very much a mage like Rydia. Further, that mage is the goddamn HEROINE. Cecil is a sexist dick, as is Fang. He refused to teach his daughter how to fight because she was a woman UNTIL she proved she could. Sure, feminist message on how women can be tough too, but she had to prove to her dad she was worth training. The fact they brought the idea up is shameful, especially because he only changes his opinion on his daughter; he's still sexist everywhere else.

FF6 has TWO strong female protagonists and NEVER questions their competency based on them being women. The only women who are protected are ones who have never seen combat and thus would not know how to properly defend themselves.
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Shoe-nin Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
You do know Rosa and Rydia essentially told them "you guys are dumbasses" when Cecil does that and they sneak on anyways, hell Rydia was massively pissed off when they did that. Or when Rydia literally came to save everyone's ass against Golbez and basically told Cecil "Dude I forgave you long ago for being a patsy to murder since it wasn't your fault. We got more important shit to do, like save the goddamn world". Paraphrasing sure, but that was the jist of it. Im not even a fan of Rosa and know full well what you said was bullshit.

Speaking of Terra and Celes, fan of theirs unlike Rosa, but you do know most of Celes' character is basically clinging to Locke, a guy, right? The entirety of world of ruin only starts because she finds out he's alive, otherwise she almost kills herself out of despair.
Most of Terra's characterization is literally questioning EVERYTHING she does. That is her character for 90% of the fucking game. 
Those 2 are FAR from good representatives of competency.

Kindly shut the hell up when talking about Sexism and insulting characters who literally do the complete opposite and show competency. Actually know what sexism is before you run your mouth spouting nonsense.
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PascalOfPiers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
The fact is, they still had to sneak into things, and Edge was a sexist dunce, and Fang immediately assumed they were healers when Rydia had clearly showed before that point she was a competent offensive spellcaster.

Yes, Celes pines for Locke, but that's far from her only character quirk. She eventually ends up becoming a heroine in her own right by assembling everyone back together again, something none of the other heroes had tried by that point.

Oh, and I'm sorry, I guess I was the competent one who saved Cid. Y'know what happens then, right? She decides, on her own, to go assemble everyone again. She doesn't even mention Locke, Cid does. She makes the choice to go save the world. So please, kindly shut the hell up.
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Shoe-nin Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Yes, they snuck in cleverly and told them to fuck off and essentially told all 3 men "Tought Shit, were going and you'll die without us if you don't". How in anyway is that a bad thing for Rydia and Rosa to have done? That is badass, not sure how you think its insulting and sexist. Also Edge's shit was more downplaying her age than being a woman, so you got that wrong too. Incase you forgot, which you have shown, Rydia downplays and basically has Edge whipped for being cocky and immature for pretty much most their dialogue together.

YANG (not Fang, Fang is FF13. You couldn't even get the names right repeatedly) didn't say anything. The King of Fabul is the one who asked Rosa and Rydia to heal people at Fabul because he recognized Rosa as a high level white mage and Fabul had almost no army because most were dieying, and Edward sucks at healing at this point anyways. Yang had also seen Rydia do healing at this point. Keep in mind right after this point, and 8 year old Rydia, LITERALLY TOLD GROWN ASS MEN TO STOP BEING STUPID AND TO GO AND KICK BADGUYS ASSES when they were defeated and moping. The fucking Sexism is literally getting shot down by an 8 year old girl, and somehow this is sexist according to you? How the fuck is being competent and using their strengths is in anyway, sexist and incompetent?

Everyone in World of Ruin was pretty much trying to help people or cause havok for bad guys baring Strago, don't try to downplay anyone else's motives. It was cool as shit that Celes was bringing back everyone together but she pretty much did it because she wanted to find Locke specifically.  Also not everyone got the right fishes in their first playthrough, infact most didn't even know about the fishes without a guide or someone telling them that the fishes actually had different properties, which you probably had a guide for you fucking baddie. Even then, she still pretty much does it because Cid essentially tells her to go out. Also good job missing the most compelling scene in the game and insulting people for getting it, dumbass.

Next time you want to justify your bullshit taste, try not to bring in political bullshit into this, so fuck you and shut the fuck up.
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PascalOfPiers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Sorry for forgetting a name from a game I haven't played in awhile, I just happened to remember how much I hated the sexist message. And yes, they did try to help, but Celes was the first one to bring them together, and as I said, in Cid's version of events, she made NO MENTION of Locke. She's still happy to see her old friends again. Don't downplay that. It's like you assume the only thing she ever talked or thought about was Locke. First of all, that's not true, and second of all, all the others characters tended to have something they focused on as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Locke also pining over his dead girlfriend? And Setzer as well?

So it's sexist when a woman wants to think about a man, but fine when a man wants to think about a woman. I see how it is.
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Shoe-nin Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
And that's why Rydia is cool and good, because she pretty much goes "hahaha no" to all those messages, and lambasts people twice her age(or technically thrice in some cases) for being stupid. Yes she has moments of breaking down due to being surrounded by death, but she gets over them because she realizes there's more important things to do and to prevent more of it. An 8 year old getting over Pyrophobia is pretty damn cool, and one of the best times FF did story meshing with gameplay perfectly without being intrusive. Even Rosa pretty much realizes she basically has power and priority over both Cecil and Kain if they do anything stupid.

Celes didn't mention Locke when Cid lives, Cid himself does and mentions to bring back Locke to visit with that whole grandpa shtick and all. But if he's dead, which is what most people see, Locke being alive is very much the reason she goes to do what she does. Cid dead is the better and quicker route, and more what Square was aiming for anyways, so why deny a powerful scene?

Also I never said it was sexist thinking of a man. You said Terra and Celes never question their competency and the FF4 girls are bad because for messages of misplaced chivalry. Terra's character conflict is literally being unsure of herself or what she wants to do. When she becomes super matron its cool and good, but it does take a while to get there and there are moments of Terra being, well lets face it, a wimp. But she gets over it and thats cool and good, but competent through the game is a no. Most of Celes' motivations are infact because of Locke. You can't say 2 women suck because men tell them what to do (and they disobey that anyways) but praise one who's motivations are mainly due to a guy. I like Celes, I like what she does and how she kept on trucking despite the apocalypse and goes to get the gang back again to stop Kefka, but she is flawed that she is a bit too clingy to Locke, where she does have moments of panic when Locke is either supposedly dead or distrusting her, later of which you cannot miss. Is Rosa clingy to Cecil? Absolutely, but she does keep him in check about some of his idiotic tendencies. Thats something Celes never really does with Locke, and vice versa. Even outside big moments, there are times Locke is helping Celes due to some screw up, the ending for instance.

Locke's thing about Rachel was more about failure and closure  than anything, it is its own topic that's irrelevant on what this whole thing of Rydia/Rosa/Celes/Terra is about anyways.
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truegentleman101 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I only hope that you don't automatically classify cecil as an inherently bad person. I really think he only has good intentions for his actions. He's mostly just influenced by the environment and traditions he grew up in.
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truegentleman101 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But thank you for the insight! :) I don't know much about the ff lore except iv since that's the only one I actually attempted to play on my own.
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truegentleman101 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see what you mean. Well, ffiv was released in 1991, while bravely was released in 2012. I'm sure the way characters are portrayed should be written differently from those two games despite sharing similar settings.
As for terra, I haven't played ff6, but I have played dissidia 012. Based of what I learn about terra from that game, she's an esper with amnesia (?) and throughout the game, she's constantly manipulated by kefka to fight the warriors of cosmos. It was only when Vaan (ffxii) decided to step in and save her from kefka's manipulation. Now this clearly doesn't represent who terra actually is from her respective game. But based on what I played so far, she's not entirely written to be a super badass, independent character... But hey, what do I know?
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PascalOfPiers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
She struggles with identity in her own game, but the amount of time she's under mind control is the first hour, tops.
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ManRandomThe Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
I like Rydia's outfit.
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1j3j Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018
Wait who won Temari vs Ino?
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TMason Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2018
You have to be one of my patrons to find out. :)
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1j3j Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2018
Aw :(
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